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Do You Want To Pay The Cost of Commercial Flights?
Thu, Apr 28, 2016 - 09:40 PM

You may have seen some recent media coverage of Paine Field and comments made by Propeller CEO Brett Smith who continues to minimize concerns regarding the scheduled service.
The main concern is that commercial service will come with impacts that will grow over time unless there are limits. Remember, the FAA allows rates that cover ALL direct AND indirect costs.

We understand that Mr. Smith, his investors and prospective airlines would rather minimize the impact issues, essentially ignoring legitimate concerns about how scheduled service over time would change the quality of life, transportation, noise, and air quality around our schools, all while decreasing tax revenues from lower home values.

Mr. Smith has stated he wants to be a good neighbor and community partner. He can start by limiting scheduled service activity under his lease terms and agreeing to mitigate all reasonably determined impacts. Perhaps he will seriously consider doing so but we are not holding our breath.

We must pursue ensuring that all costs to the public are covered, in every way we can (remember, if they don't pay, you do!). Propeller and any airline they partner with should have no question in their minds about surrounding communities’ commitment to follow through and ensure there are no free passes.

Stay tuned!

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Reminder: Charter Review Meeting Wednesday 7:00 PM
Tue, Apr 5, 2016 - 10:31 PM

A reminder to show your support for responsible management of Paine Field by attending the Snohomish County Charter Review Commission meeting. As a guide, there are some talking points at the end of this blog.

Mayor Gregerson plans to introduce a proposal concerning Paine Field Airport. She believes the public should weigh in before major changes occur at Paine Field like sale or transfer of public assets.

She believes the county should be required to hold a public vote before any sale or transfer of Paine Field Airport. The airport is an important county asset, and voters should weigh in before changes occur.

Her other proposal is to empower the Paine Field Community Council to provide more oversight of the airport, to make the Community Council a part of the charter, and to adjust the membership of the Community Council to better represent the public.

You can find more information about Mayor Gregerson's proposals here.

You can also send your comments by email to Chris.roberts@snoco.org.

Talking Points

  • Boards and Commissions in Snohomish County help insure good governance and keep the public involved with decisions that affect important aspects of their lives. Visit http://snohomishcountywa.gov/128/Boards-Commissions and you will see scores of successful Boards and Commissions. Mayor Gregerson's proposal for the Paine Field Community Council to provide more oversight of the airport fits this successful pattern, and helps prevent further erosion of the best use of Paine Field.Decisions governing the airport are so important that it demands maximum public engagement from citizens throughout the county but especially those near and around the airport.

Whether you attend, send your comments by email, or both, we urge you to seize this opportunity to help shape the future of Paine Field.

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Paine Field Charter Review Meeting
Mon, Apr 4, 2016 - 10:45 PM

We encourage you to show your support for responsible management of Paine Field by attending the Snohomish County Charter Review Commission meeting this Wednesday at 7:00 PM, Mukilteo City Hall.

Voters elected 15 people to the Charter Review Commission. Wednesday, April 6, they will be meeting at Mukilteo City Hall at 7 PM, to hear from you on your ideas for the charter.

This week, Mayor Gregerson plans to introduce a proposal concerning Paine Field Airport. She believes the public should weigh in before major changes occur at Paine Field like sale or transfer of public assets.

She believes the county should be required to hold a public vote before any sale or transfer of Paine Field Airport. The airport is an important county asset, and voters should weigh in before changes occur.

Her other proposal is to empower the Paine Field Community Council to provide more oversight of the airport, to make the Community Council a part of the charter, and to adjust the membership of the Community Council to better represent the public.

You can find more information about Mayor Gregerson's proposals here.

You can also send your comments by email to Chris.roberts@snoco.org.

Whether you attend, send your comments by email, or both, we urge you to seize this opportunity to help shape the future of Paine Field.

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Recent Court Ruling
Thu, Mar 17, 2016 - 10:26 PM

You most likely have heard about the recent federal court ruling in favor of allowing commercial flights at Paine Field with no further studies.

We believe some key points were not properly considered in the ruling and Petitioners are reviewing the potential for a rehearing. The court contemplates additional impact assessments if and when Propeller’s operation goes beyond a similar activity level described in the court ruling as 22 flight operations per day. All direct and indirect costs of commercial service need to be paid for by Propeller and the Airlines to avoid subsidies as is authorized by the FAA. Indirect costs can grow exponentially with additional traffic. The court made it clear that the limited scope of the study does not address operations beyond what was studied. The court also found that FAA actions are needed in any expanded operation scenario. Unless scheduled service is limited in some way, we must collectively address expansion scenarios. Mitigation actions and costs must not be circumvented or minimized by incremental expansion. The position of the County and many impacted cities is t o strongly discourage scheduled service meaning no subsidies. We are fully committed to that position and continue to explore all options.

Also, the lawsuit against Snohomish County is still in play. This is NOT over!

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Flights Fight Continues
Wed, Feb 3, 2016 - 09:33 PM

Thank you to those who attended the Save Our Communities annual meeting. We discussed ideas for moving forward, and the current lawsuits, including insights from Mayor Gregerson. Stay tuned for the outcome of the lawsuits, and next steps.

Check out the great letter in the Beacon written by our President, Mike Moore. It is not over! There is still time for the politics and money driving the fate of commercial flights to be replaced with reality and facts. We encourage you to add comments to Mike's letter, even if just a brief one. Let people know you still care about our future.

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Don't forget to Vote!
Sun, Aug 2, 2015 - 09:59 PMPosted by Save Our Communities

A reminder that your vote is important to keep Brian Sullivan on the Snohomish County Council. Brian's influence and support has been unvwavering for years in supporting your interests to discourage commercial flights from Paine Field. We need to show our support now in his bid to continue in office.

Don't forget to remind your friends and neighbors too!

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Vote for Brian Sullivan
Fri, Jul 17, 2015 - 11:14 PM

A quick update on three topics . . .

1. YOU MUST VOTE FOR BRIAN SULLIVAN AND GET OTHERS TO DO THE SAME -- IF YOU CARE, YOU WILL ACT:

 Councilmember Brian Sullivan continues to represent your interests in Paine Field issues and deserves your vote in the coming elections. Brian will continue to defend our quality of life, support and promote aerospace manufacturing, while opposing scheduled commercial flights.

Brian’s opponent has long promoted commercial service using every angle possible. He scoffs at concerns over unrestricted and subsidized commercial service – there is no other way to describe his views on the airport other than he completely dismisses your concerns.

Brian’s leadership is just the opposite and is evident throughout the decades-long Paine Field debate, and with the future of Paine Field in question again, Brian fully understands that a 50 year lease to an unproven company, Propeller LLC, is like opening Pandora's box.


Brian will continue work to ensure there are no subsidies, that all impacts are paid for and that the true market and all applicable laws will dictate the outcome rather than flawed political pandering and misstatements.

If you care about this issue, if you support aerospace, general aviation and tourism versus subsidizing competition with SeaTac and Bellingham, then vote for Brian Sullivan.

2. The Federal lawsuit is still alive. This will see more activity when there is more direct action at Paine Field, such as terminal construction being scheduled.

3. The County lawsuit is still alive. This is progressing, and we will send out an alert when there is something to report.

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Voice your opinion!
Thu, Jun 4, 2015 - 10:04 PM
An opportunity to voice your opinion.
There is an article in the Edmonds Beacon with a survey attached. The first few questions ask your opinion on commercial flights at Paine Field. Express your opinion! Let everyone know that you do not accept the flawed decisions that have been made.

There are many points you can use as reasons to opposed commercial flights at Paine Field on our FAQ page.

Some key points
  • While the negative impact would not be immediate, it is simple math that as commercial flights grow, there is less time for Boeing. 
  • Commercial flights have precedence of experimental flights (Boeing test flights are considered experimental). 
  • Boeing continues to use more of Paine Field real estate to park planes. They need all the space they can get.”
  • The FAA approved scheduled commercial flights from Paine Field based on a flawed Environmental Assessment (EA) that does not comply with the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA.)
  • Property devaluation

The reduction in our quality of l ife is another. Just as important is this airfield's long-standing and long agreed-to role of playing a supporting function to Boeing and the aerospace community, which could not continue if air service grew at a rate that is easily imaginable. In addition, the jobs it will attract will be low-wage jobs. 

  • County residents are on the hook for all traffic improvements, noise mitigation, and other costs associated with adding commercial flights since the flawed EA found “no significant impact”.
  • Based on a study of Sea-Tac home values, a 10% reduction is forecast if scheduled commercial air service begins at Paine Field. 

That 10% would cost our community over $1 Billion. This would, in turn, lower tax revenues to local and county governments which would then cause cuts to police, fire, and general services. That would likely then kick off a downward spiral of degradation, which could only be offset by higher taxes to restore the lost services.

  • A study of Boeing Field, vs other Seattle communities found that, near the airport, residents had: 

- 57% higher asthma
- 28% higher pneumonia/influenza
- 26% higher respiratory disease
- 83% higher pregnancy complications

  • Since the FAA determined that adding commercial flights would have “no significant impact” on the surrounding communities, there is no legal basis to demand the FAA or the airlines pay for needed improvements such as roads and noise mitigation.
  • Noise Mitigation costs: About 100,000 children attend schools under the flight path of Paine Field. It cost the Highline School District $200M for Noise Mitigation.
  • Traffic Improvements: most of the intersections that would be used to access the new terminal already have an “F” grade from WSDOT. The taxpayers would be on the hook for millions of dollars in improvements.

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Lawsuit Filed
Tue, Apr 7, 2015 - 07:18 PMPosted by Save Our Communities

As previously stated, we are assessing the best path forward. That path now includes filing a lawsuit to void the contract with Propeller. Two key points are:

• Failure to Comply with Procedural Requirements of the County Code before Taking Action
• Failure to Comply with state environmental review requirements

These points and others were pointed out to the Snohomish County Council before they voted on the contract, but three council members chose to ignore their own procedural requirements.
A Herald article can be found here that covers the issue.

The best use of Paine Field does not include commercial flights, but if scheduled commercial air service must begin, it must be brought in legally, and with no taxpayer money put at risk.

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KOMO Paine Field Interview with John Carlson
Sat, Mar 7, 2015 - 04:42 PM

You may be asked questions about the lease to build a new passenger terminal at Paine Field like “What’s the big deal, it’s only a two gate terminal” or “Why not commercial flights”, here is a concise, less than 5 minute interview of our SOC president with KOMO radio’s John Carlson to help with answers. As always, you can find information in previous alerts, our library, and the SOC website in general.

This is not over! We are actively working on the next steps. Stay tuned . . .

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